With interviewer Bettine Vriesekoop, after interview on OBA Live, Amsterdam, Netherlands

Van Heerden with interviewer Bettine Vriesekoop, after interview on OBA Live, Amsterdam, Netherlands.

With interviewer Bettine Vriesekoop, after interview on OBA Live, Amsterdam, Netherlands

With interviewer Bettine Vriesekoop, after interview on OBA Live, Amsterdam, Netherlands